Hey Chris,
I just came across the article below published on PeaceFm, Ghana Nation and other Ghanaian websites.
Please help me out and tell me what is the definition of ‘Hollywood’ movie. There are thousands of movies produced per year here in the USA and more than half of them are not considered ‘Hollywood’ movies.
Is it me or are some people in Nollywood and Ghallywood are so stupid as to believe that when someone comes from America to make a movie it is suddenly “Hollywood”? I get so damned aggravated when I read these foolishness.
Do they know the number of movies made in Miami alone because some drug dealer wants to launder his money? Believe me they are not “Hollywood” movies and will never be considered as such.
I think it is high time Ghanaians stop being delusional about this Hollywood thing and get educated about the facts.
Regards,
Kath xxx
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My Comment…
How you “go” feel if you wake up and meet the below email in your inbox? I felt so embarrassed as a Ghanaian Entertainment/Celebrity blogger and also the founder of the biggest Ghanaian Entertainment blog.
The writer “Kath” is my pal (African American) with special interest in Africa Studies and based in Miami, FL.
I do not even know where to start my explanation from. Definitely she is right and very right.
My Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary says a “Hollywood movie” is a movie made in Hollywood. By this, I think the dictionary is referring to movies made in Hollywood Studios…
I have had a busy day and have not been able to speak to the few people I know can be authoritative on this issue, however, I managed to speak to a USA based film critic who happens to be an online pal and she seems to share the above view.
According to her, productions that have taken place in Hollywood are the only ones qualified to be tagged as “Hollywood movies” and this is because, certain standards, budget and pre-requisites must be met before a movie can be called a Hollywood Movie.
I am not very certain on this issue and will love to hear from anyone who has a well informed view on this matter. What do you guys think?
One thing I am sure about is, Kath is right…. Some of our people need to be educated about this whole Hollywood BS…
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Below is the article in question…
Ghanaian Stars In Upcoming Hollywood Movie
Some of Ghana’s finest actors have been named in an upcoming Hollywood movie to be shot in Ghana during the second quarter of this year.
The movie, titled Ties That Bind, is said to star renowned names such as John Dumelo, David Dontoh, Khareemar Aguiar and Ama K Abebrese. Kofi Adjorlolo, who has been banned by the Film Producers Association of Ghana (FIPAG), is interestingly also making an appearance in the film.
Nollywood actress, Omotola Ekeinde according Nigeriafilms.com has signed a 15,000,000 Naira deal with the movie’s production house, Turning Point Pictures, to star in the movie. Some renowned Hollywood casts whose identities are yet to be revealed by Turning Point Pictures would also star this multimillion Dollar movie.
Ties That Bind tells the story of three women; Adobea, Buki and Theresa, who hail from different walks of life bound together by a similar pain – the loss of a child.
The story captures the journey of the women to redemption, love, life and forgiveness. The film according to producers will be directed by Ghanaian director, Leila Djansi. Source: Nigeriafilms/Peacefm/GhanaNation
Marilyn Monroe once said “Hollywood’s a place where they’ll pay you a thousand dollars for a kiss and fifty cents for your soul I know because I turned down the first offer often enough and held out for the fifty cents” but the upcoming movie sounds really intresting
Chris. i feel so ashamed for you right now. So all the huge movies that were not filmed in the city of Hollywood are not Hollywood movies? hotel rwanda, blood diamond, last king of scotland. I will pardon you if you use the words Hollywood studio and Hollywood Independent movie. That shows an enlightened mind.
A hollywood movie, for your information is any movie made under the guilds of Hollywood. By definition, hollywood film refers to a film made by hollywood which is the american film industry. for recognition reasons, that is why the film must either be distributed by a hollywood studio or be signed on to hollywood guilds.
are you not the same Chris who blasted sinking sands movie on your website and announced its distribution by traction media which by the was is a company that has won oscars for its films? Half nelson is the movie. look it up.
You reader mail is from a jealous individual who cannot stand the success of her fellow African woman. women will always be their own enemies. You always lay claim to leila djansi. is she not a member of the WGA? is her company not registered to the guilds of hollywood? you think putting hollywood stars in your film na fufu and banku deal? a film owned by american guilds is a hollwyood film. get educated. i hate it when you people can’t stand the success of another. leila djansi is producing another film called red soil which stars all Hollywood stars and laurence fishburne. I bet you will offended if that is also called a hollywood film because an african is at the helm of affairs. shame on you.
There is not such thing as hollywood guild unless your referring to the DGA (Directors Guild of America), WGA ( Writers Guild of America) and DGA (Directors Guild Of America there is no such things as Hollywood guild And by the way Not all Hollywood directors are DGA members Notable directors people like George Lucas, Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez have refused membership Those who aren’t members of the guild are unable to direct for the larger movie studios which are signatories to the guild’s agreements that all directors must be guild members
Thank you. Enough said
Correction SGA
I don’t even no why some people ate attacking Chris on this but if the person had taken his time to read than he/she would have known that Chris said “that he is not very certain on this issue and will love to hear from anyone who has a well informed view on this matter. What do you guys think?”
Sekua, I don’t get why you are insulting Chris. He gave a dictionary definition. So why the stress? He admitted he didn’t know so he used a dictionary to help him as well as a friend. He didn’t claim to be an expert. The movies you listed were not made in the city of Hollywood. There is no such thing as an Hollywood independent film. Please tell me your source on that “fact”. Miyagi already educated you that there is no Hollywood guild so I will leave that. As for the reader mail writer, I don’t know if someone who is interested in African studies would be jealous of the success of her fellow Africans. Maybe that is the stupidity she refers to. You come on here showing off the shit you’ve googled but have no substance. Go sit in a corner with your face to the wall.
@kr don’t mind him Chris wildeal with him in his own way
you point being? well, you have forgotten Hollywood guilds and associations like IATSE, AFTRA, AFM, IFA, and a host of others. a movie is a bonafide hollywood film if its is signs on to one or more of these guilds. even if George Lucas is not a DGA, that does not mean his movies are not guild movies. the actors he uses are, the workers, the editors and cinematographers all also belong to guilds so I do not quite know what you are saying here. what do you undertsand to mean a guild? In ghana, to be a recognized trader and to be liable for taxes, you must be registered with the TUC. thats how hollywood also operates. Mind you, a lot of name actors will not work with you unless film is a SAG film. many crew members will also not work with if your film is not a union film because that is how they are protected. if you want to sepaparete the chaff from the fine, then the films shot under quilds are the Hollywood films. be that they are independent hollywood films or studio films. if the film is ultimately distributed by a hollywood company, a company that is regiestered in hollywood as a distributor, then you also have the movie being a hollywood film. to make another argument. you guys said Prince David was in a Hollwyood film. ttruth be told, The Dead is a british film made by the ford brothers who practically live in Ghan. its NOT a hollywood film, but, it is now by virtue of is distribution. its a Hollywood indepenendent film. so your statement of “there is no such thing as a hOllywood guild” is as ignorant as a child born today. if there is no such thing as a hollywood guild, then why refer to hollywood guilds such as WGA, DGA and PGA which by the way make up and control hollwyood? Please, some of us are film students in America and we learn ok. don’t come here and throw dust into anyones eyes.
My dear, there is no such thing as a Hollywood film. When movies are advertised here they tipically tell you the studio, like MGM, Fox, Columbia, Dreamworks etc. You think the actors in Hollywood walk around saying that they are doing a Hollywood film? They tipically name the studio. Someone under studio contract or in SGA but not under contract with any one studio is totally something else. Hollywood film isn’t even used. Maybe in Africa but seriously there is no such thing. You didn’t get the point because you have all these acronyms swimming around in your head with no cohesiveness to them. All the different institutions serves specific purposes. Movies are recognized under various categories, watch the Oscars on the 27th of February. Independent films will be recognized under that category, mainstream films will be done in the various categories, animates, etc. People keep throwing the term “Hollywood film” and it doesn’t exist. If you are talking about an America film as being substituted with the words “Hollywood film” then say so. But to go around talking about “Hollywood film” is just plain ignorant. If you really want to stick with the wording “Hollywood films” then yes it has to be associated with a MAJOR studio like Paramount, Columbia, Fox, etc. But believe me, there is really no such thing as a “Hollywood film”. If you walk around the streets of Hollywood and someone comes up to you and tell you that they want to cast you in a “Hollywood film” you will be laughed at because films are recognized by the studios. You and I can be a part of any guild if we fit the criteria and pay our dues. Don’t get confused and don’t let anyone fool you that they are doing a “Hollywood film”. Ask them which major studio will be funding or distributing the movie.
kr, you wished you could just wake uo one morning and become a member of a guild. to become a member of SAG, you must have earned a certain number of points attained by acting in movies that ave signed to the collective bargaining agreement of SAG.
just to edicate you a bit more.
please, stop trying to educate me because I know much better than you. I interned at SAG and I am doing my MFA at AFI. please. you are handling a pro. so shut the fuck up.
errm, if there is no such thing as Hollywood Guilds the google must be shut down! you are so ignorant. what is the definition of a guild? it is ” a formal association of people with similar interests;”
also here is the link to a news paper article with the heading “Hollywood guilds hold $150 million in unclaimed royalties” that was reported by reuters. here is the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/05/industry-us-guilds-idUSTRE67406E20100805 again here is another newspaper article, reported by the variety.com “Hollywood Guilds May Oppose Sale of Miramax to David Bergstein” find the link here : http://www.slashfilm.com/hollywood-guilds-may-oppose-sale-of-miramax-to-david-bergstein/.
at least I am not sitting begind my computer assuming I know. i actually am verifying my facts before sharing them online. really? there is no such thing as Hollywood Independent film? so what is Slumdog Millionaire? what is My Name Is Khan? what is Black swan? have you ever heard of the word ‘indie film”. amazing. this website is really full of uninformed people. I must comment more often. here is another link and have a good night. “Black Swan” Effect: Are Regal and AMC Teaming Up to Distribute Indie Films?
I am from a country where a movie star can become president, and a bi-racial boy who was raised by is single mom and grandparents can become. Where a once homeless man can write and produce his own plays and later do films to be one of the wealthiest people in Atlanta. So I don’t have to wish to wake up to be a member of the screen actors guild. I am from a place where Yes We Can is not just a passing phrase but the possibility of reality. So please don’t come here and try to talk foolishness with me. Take that to your friends as you sit under a tree talking bullshit about making it to the airport much less america. Don’t patronize me. I am not limited because someone’s says I am limited. I do what I want because I live in that world where I create my own destiny. If acting were my thing, I would be a member of the screen actors guild. It is not so go to hell with that shit. Talk what you know, not what you see on tv. You talk like someone who’s reality is based in fiction
This is funny, one does not need a degree in Hollywoodlogy to know what is Hollywood an what is not…
Break it down as my lecturer will proudly say, We all know what a movie is so no debate about that…
What is Hollywood then? This has a historical attachment and from my little reading, it seems years ago, for easy recognition or some sort of brand creation, all movies that were under the auspices of HOLLYWOOD were termed hollywood movies…
Today, the term hollywood movie is not even much used by the people who started it and the studios belonging to hollywood, yet in Africans have grown hungry on it…
It will be hard for me to be convinced that the fact that a movie is made in America or a person who shot the movie belongs to an association affiliated to hollywood is enough to make the movie a hollywood movie…Bogus!
This hollywood movies which were historically referred to had common trace, quality and identification..
If a movie just becomes a hollywood movie by virtue of association to some sort of guild or association or whatever, what happens if the person under which the movie is shot belongs to 3 diff movie guilds in the world? the movie becomes Hollywood cum Nollywood cum Bollywood movie huh? My common sense does not agree here!
I am still not convinced by any of your deduction. And I never blasted Sinking Sands for anything…
What I am doing here is seeking for experts knowledge on this matter,a matter raised by a loyal reader so let the discussions continue free from insults…
Chris lol, I just came from the Pan African film festival and saw Nadia Buhari and his no wearing make up camerawoman aka her mother shooting her every movement. It was so stupid. Please Ghanaian so-called celebrities stop embarrassing yourselves when you come here. This is very shameful. What the fuck! This is the reason why I truly respect Akofa Asiedu. She was also there, and very well dressed in African dress.. i even saw her speaking to one of Paramount Pictures top executive members…. Please stop this stupidity. Nadia and her so-called stupid team including her mom were just an embarrassment. So funny, she thinks she’s going to get noticed in tinsel town with such stupidity. Gosh! People were just looking at her with disguise, why must it be this way! She needs to get an agent if you want to make it here, please enough of this bullshit!
Manishy, Nadia and her so called team (PR and friends who cannot advice her well) will soon kill her career and she then see how stupid she has been. If what you are saying is true, then the girl must be ashamed of herself.
GC will not bother with that foolish girl called Nadia since according to a friend who knows Gossip Mama, Chris and the other bloggers on here have decided to blacklist that girl from their blog because she and her PR folks are cows and do not understand how things work for celebrities.
Did you not read this? http://www.dailyguideghana.com/ghananewsentertainment/2022-nadia-buari-vs-ghanacelebrities.html
I wonder why people go abroad to disgrace themselves like that. Stupidity at its peak.
@manishy and Akosuaghana what has Nadia got to do with this topic and why insult her mum and yeah Akosuaghana why come here with that silly topic about Nadia vs GC topic if that was so important than Chris would have posted it’s old and go and read it again it was her so called new pr that was attacking GC fool you always come here with some dumb thing dickhead look at your own face before judging someone else you ain’t all that at all
i agree. lets break it down. I interned at SAG and one thing I learned there is that the compnay that owns an interest in a film can determine what name you call your film. what company is it? if a shirleys sparrow comes to sign a collective bargainong agreement, whichs says i would adhere to all rules of making a movie of the american film industry, shirley can walk away, make a movie and call it hollywood movie by virtue of 1. her company is american or has american ties, 2. she has signed on to the rules of hollywood. meaning, guidelines, that govern hollywood are applied in her production.
you forget that africa is 500 years behind america, so as you say, when hollywood started, they called their films hollywood films. well, now africans have gotten to where that period was.
i think it is only out of spite and hate that someone will decide to write a public article to embarrass a product.
a writer decided to call a movie a hollywood film because the production house is based there and the film stars people from hollywood. if it were easy to have that hollywood identity, then all the diaspora african films will feature hollywood stars. it costs money, time and adhering to a lot of rules to feature hollywood stars in your movie. because the production house is american, i will not be surprised that is has signed on to agreements of hollywood.
all I am saying is, who cares? who cares so much that is has to be written about in a article? like I said chris, the lady in question, your friend because I have seen you comment on her facebook times and times has another movie in the offing called red soil and all the stars are hollywood and so is the director. when the movie comes out, will you still call it a Ghanaian film? or will it be owned by hollywood?
who will own this new film? Ghana? or Hollywood? maybe you should ask your friend.
to answer your question therefore, who owns the film, who owns the copyright determines also, among others what movie you can call hollywood. if fox buys the film, is it not then owned by hollywood? if I own a blue hummer, will not be called sekuas blue hummer?
this has gone on too long. have fun bringing each other down. ghana will forever be the same.
How many times will I tell you that this is not about Leila but an attempt to clarify things and educate everyone who reads this blog?
The fact that it was an article about Leila’s movie that brought up this does not mean it is targeted at her or anything…
Honey, there are so many movies out in UK that has starred Hollywood stars and yet they are not called Hollywood movies. So scratch the star factor…
It is not also an association with the American film industry that makes a movie a hollywood movie. The countless movies shot in America are mostly registered under America film laws, does that mean all the movie they produce are Hollywood? Hell no!
I stand by ” Hollywood movies are movies made in Hollywood”. What then is Hollywood should be what you should try to address in your mind to understand what and what is not a Hollywood movie…
Can anyone give me what “Hollywood movie” means in whatever dictionary he/she has and then we can take it from there…
okay reali i dnt get dis article at all
The production company that help put the movies out is in Hollywood.
and kr, there is not such thing as SGA. if there is please define it. studios are not only the companies that make films in Hollywood. have you ever heard of Bob yari? participant productions?, cruel and unsual films? goldcrest films, ICM? 20 20 international? lakeside, roadshow, MPCA, I can name a lot that have 4 room offices that make hit movies you watch in your house! movies like the perfect sleep made by unified pictures which is in a 3 room office in Northride is an example.
stop showing your ignorance on here.
Sekua, thank you for informing us of your wonderful ability to google extensively. Now I think it is time for you to either go to bed or think carefully before responding. Do you know the difference between MAJOR motion picture studio and an INDEPENDENT film studio and smaller studios? Doesn’t look like you do. A typo is completely different from bullshitting. Obviously I was talking about the screen actors guild, Please don’t promote your ignorance. Did you hear about My Big Fat Greek Weeding? That movies was the project of Tom Hanks’ wife, a huge success but was an INDEPENDENT FILM. A small budget independent can turn out to be a huge box office success. The success of a film doesn’t change the category it is in. Talk about someone embarrassing him/herself. Stop talking bullshit and present a sensible argument if you are trying to reason with me. You have information but not cohesiveness to your thoughts.
Sekua, here is another fact, Robert Redford does independent films through his Sundance company. They fair well but doesn’t change the fact that he does independent films on smaller budgets than the MAJOR STUDIOS. Sometimes people steer away from the politics of the major studios and do well at the box office. They actually rake in then 3 times the films budget. The major studios often loose on their high budget films but that doesn’t negate the fact of whether it is an independent film or an independent. The box office success doesn’t determine Major motion pictures or independent film. They are release within their categories.
oh please time for you to shut up you are drifting right now. what is your thesis statement? sum it up. no one is talking about marketing or distribution or what films do well or not. we are simply and purely discussing a films ability to qualify under the title hollywood. You have still not defined SGA for me. you have still not come back to tell me that you were wrong because there are GUILDS in hollywood. I backed my words with evidence from Hollywood and the recognized media. please feel free to do the same. no one cares about the budget of the film, that is why SAG and other guilds have categories for various budget types. modified low budget, ultra low budget, standard etc. each budget type is considered by each guild to determine working conditions and other proprieties.
this is my summation. A film, made under guide lines of the guilds and associations that make up the American film industry called Hollywood are viable to be called Hollywood films. To make an example, a student who writes a WAEC examination qualifies to be admitted into institutions that recognize the WAEC certification. period.
Hey Bonsu, no offense but are you working in the film industry or you still enrolling in a program?
sekua,your explaination is quite write .you stick to the point that the article above has raised.the question is, what movie qualify as hollywood movie.it is all about quality,standed,rules,and identification.i think that everone that is engaged in this discusioni is quite right in what they are saying but,we have to pay attention to the question raised in the article above.
Again your championship in googling is evident. Good for you. You mentioned giulds I didn’t expect in response. So maybe you should shut up. You keep talking about guilds and guilds. Please tell me if these associations have identified and or defined themselves as guilds? I can assure you that you are the one throwing around the term loosely. There are guilds, associtations, agencies, etc but you always lump them under the term guild. How dumb can one be? The thesis of the reader’s mail is on use of the term “Hollywood films” so where you are is nowhere where I am on that issue. Maybe, I will do the refrain, you should shut up. Since you and others are determined to use “Hollywood films” marketing and distribution must be discussed. Follow the syllogism, you have no major or minor premise so you go off with bullshit. Maybe you should shut up. No one said there are no guilds in Hollywood. What was disputed by Miyagi and me is the fact that there is no such thing as a Hollywood guild. Go back and read the previous comments. I don’t have to back what I say with unsubstiantiated links. I wil however you to the one-stop-shop of the MPAA. Maybe you should shut up. I will, as I have stated before, say, there is not such thing as “hollywood films”. If Spike Lee came to Ghana to make a movie and employed the services of some of the Ghanaian celebrities to be a part of his cast along with some American actors, he would not tell you that he is making a “Hollywood films”. He would tell you that he is making an Independent film. In a previous post you mentioned the movie, The Last King of Scotland, well let’s use that as an example. When the location was finalized and the cast and crew went to Africa to film, I am sure they didn’t say we are making a “Hollywood film”. They would identify themselves as coming from Hollywood because it is relatable to the locals but they would most certianly say they are making a major motion picture (which is 20th Century Fox by the way). The locals would use the term “Hollywood film” because it is what they can relate to. The executive would use the term ‘major motion picture’, or “20th Century Fox”. I was and still is talking about the term or phrase “Hollywood films”. I will reemphasize that there is no such thing. Stop going around in circles because you are confusing yourself. Show me one citation that you have made. I can garuantee you that you cannot because you didn’t. You keep throwing around acronyms which are not citations. So don’t ask me for citations when you haven’t given any. The argument is whether or not there is such a thing as “Hollywood films” I will tell you that there is none. People throw it around to impress people who don’t know better. People like yourself who googles everything and behave as if you are an expert.
good night I have made my point kr/weapon. and in saying goodnight, let me borrow the cliche phrase. what’s in a name? it all about the name. who cares? these people we are awake arguing about make more money than all of us put together. whether they call they film hollywood or not. in kr opinion, blood diamon using locals in it apart from 3 Americans is an “independent film” and not a Hollywood film. i wonder who owns the the security interest int the film or who holds the lien.
you know what those mean. liens and security interest?
please yourself. who cares? spike lee, george lucas, leila djansi, they are smiling to the bank.
so what if I google? if you hear a rumor that Mandela is dead, where is the first place you go? FYI google is a dictionary, a search engine that consises information for you. If I am quickly looking for something on SAG database, I will put my keywords in google or even bing and get a direct send. sit over there and ignorantly behave as though google is a crime. google is your friend if you don’t know.
I break out my phone and call people in the know. Google is not a dictionary. Anyone can throw info on there. Just because information is available doesn’t make it credible. I work with verified information because what I do demands that what is reported is verified and substantiated by credible people and sources.
Take an aleeve, I figure that by now your head is splitting. And answer weapon-X’s question. LOL. Maybe that will show whether or not you can follow a linear argument without chasing your tail or you need to take a few more classes. Don’t ask what someone knows something, it only shows up your ignorance not the other person. Learn to stop throwing around terminologies you’ve come across. Learn to construct an argument. Maybe sometime, should you get here I will get you a pass to have a tour of the studio lot. You never know who is on the other end, do you?
hahahahahaha!!! you call people you know. please give me the name of one person you know. you went to freaking google!!! who makes the person you know an authority by the way?
paracetamol has its scientific name, but the lay man calls it paracetamol.
i am still waiting for your to define SGA and also lay a defense to your saying there are no guilds in Hollwyood. once you come back to do those, I will hear you out.
you are a laugh. how many gates does paramount studios have. yeah call a friend or google. you have made not even one sense with your long long posts and CNNs latest information on Barack Obama. idiot
i take it reuters and variety.com go to google and put their info on google.com and its not that google is leading you the website of reuters and variety,com. see how ignorant you are? please stop making arguments. you are continously making a fool of yourself. google is but a map, to others a dictionary. expand your mind.
Go learn how to comprehend what you ask people to pronounce and read and explain. I think you are the most stupid person to ever comment of GC. What do you get from credible information? Is everything on google credible? Let me ask again, so you can think twice before you answer. Is everything on google credible? Go to bed, you really want to make a point but it is evading you badly. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, no wonder you didnt get a complete one. Just enough to pass as a human being and fool those around you.
Sekua, go finish school. I think that will best serve you well. You are still waiting for SGA to be defined because you cannot comprehend what is written as you spell and use phonics to pronounce words. Did I tell you that I work at a studio or that I could get you a tour of a studio? There you go, showing that you are unable to comprehend what you read. You keep wanting to have an argument but you clear do not possess the ability to do so. I don’t live in Ghana so I wouldn’t know that pain reliever. Don’t talk shit. You are so fucking dumb.Crawl back into your mother’s womb and bleed out in her cycle. You are too stupid to live
Why is hollywood always the case. Can’t Nigerians and Ghanaian be contented in improving thier production in comparison to hollywood rather than wanting to either become hollywood actors or wanting to film in hollywood. Please let’s all grow up and be proud of what we have and make lemonade out of our lemons.
I realize you are an idiot and that what makes responding to you so much fun. did you not say this
Maybe sometime, should you get here I will get you a pass to have a tour of the studio lot. You never know who is on the other end, do you? kr
if you do not have studio connections or work at the studio, how can you get me a pass? see there my dear. how easily you are floored.
I live in culver city by the way. sony is not too far from where i live. so please,
spare me al that.
oooh great. you don;t live in Ghana so you won’t know that pain reliever, how then do you know its a pain reliever and not a laxative? hahahahahahaha. why did you not use google. see this clown. you are so funny, i am liking you.
goodnight nigger.
Oh boy, you went to public school didn’t you? Oh sorry man, it is your environment. Don’t get mad. Just because I don’t work at a studio does limit me from knowing people who work in the movie industry. How stupid can one be. So your friend lives in Culver city and you know the name, so what?
This is why some people like Omotola look stupid by trying so hard to get to hollywood.
Kr and Sekua. I think is better if you guys stop arguing over this and I have a feeling Sekua is someone related to Leila. Im having those feelings lol
Maame, I really hope you are right about Sekua being related to Leila because that would explain the trash he is spewing.
that’s the only way you will take it when you run out of defenses to make. I would give my last one dollar to be related to leila then the facebook mail I sent her 2 months ago will get a response.
This is reason Nigeria will always be better than Ghana because they know how to blow trumpets and elevate their products thereby maximizing profit. you will never hear such a thing from Nigerians.
but these Ghanaians, they will shoot down anyone they feel is doing too well,
so what if someone lays a hollywood claim to a movie? is that a crime? is it not here on GC that we would not hear anything for Prince David osei being in some british horror film and GC called it a hollywood film? I did not see any reader mail pop up there.
Chris, your analogy is small minded as usual. I said, a film can be called a hollywood film by virtue of a number of things. at the end of the day, its simply being called an American film. what on earth is the big deal here. and who said hollywood practitioners do not call their movies hollywood films?
how many times have you not heard the term hollywood films are fast loosing originality? simply meaning that, films owned by Hollywood or made by hollywood. yes, you will not hear an actor like brad pitt say I am shooting a hollywood film because to him its not vital to identify the film. but if you probe further and say oh is it a britsh film he will say oh, its a hollywood film. why? it has hollywood traits. ever heard the term hollywood classic cinema? you do know that each industry and its style of filmmaking right? Hollywood films have identifying traits.
again Chris, you can’t be a member of many guilds and have that confuse the identity of your film. you sign on to the guild based in the country that owns your film.
idris Elba does not consider himself Ghanian but you people call him Ghanian, what is the difference then if someone claims hollywood to their film?
the important thing here is not what someone decides to call a film, but whether the film is worthy or not and lets appreciate efforts. a reader mail drafed to embrass leila Djansi’s efforts is evil. It does not even look like the release came from her pr. Chris wrote about the same movie and I am sure Omotolas team are responsible for this. but to go this far to ridcule either women, leila or omotola for such commendable efforts in the industry is shameful.
Good try, it is because you have broadened your mind and analogy on that you have extended the scope of Hollywood Movies to embrace every movie made in America.
Your recent comment is pathetic and downgrades all your argument. My lil sister will not even think that every movie made in America is a Hollywood movie.
It is simple, a movie made in Hollywood is a Hollywood movie and that is I stated. I do not want to rely on any other external source apart from the simple Cambridge Advanced Dictionary.
I do not also want to extend the length because you cannot do so. If Hollywood movie meant more than the above, the dictionary would have even stated that. It is what it is. A Hollywood movie is a movie made in Hollywood.
The reason is, I do not want anyone to say, the source is incredible unless you want to say the same for CAD.
Surely, the whole America is not called Hollywood, does this not point out the flaw in your argument that every movie made in America is a Hollywood movie? Is this the thinking of an opened minded person?
It is simple and I will go by what the Dictionary and every right thinking person will accept and understand. A Hollywood movie is a movie made in Hollywood…
Now, you can come back with what Hollywood is or means… This is got nothing to do with Leila or Omotola, I do not even know have contact with the latter so what are you talking about?
chris, read all my posts. did you also read the part where i daid what separes american movies giving one an identity of hollywood and where i mentioned diaspora african films made in america?
until you go read thst lets end this argument. if you do find thst, come back apologize and we’ll continue
i categorically stated that, who owns the film, if the film is adhering to regulations as to what separates american films from each other. making one a hollywood film and the other not.
you are so childish saying that a movie made in hollywood is a hollywood film. you know studio have built their sets in new zealand? you know most films are now shot in Toronto Canada? so you say of the location of the film is not the city of Holywood its not a Hollywood film?
wow. you are more ignorant than I thought. BTW, do you know how small the city of hollywood is? Lod angeles is not Hollywood, we have west Hollywood, north hollywood, hollywood, burbank, glendale, culver city and all these cities I mention are studio locations.
please chris, expand your mind.
if I am to come to with what hollywood means, then I have been right all along. if we think of hollywood as the industry and not the city, then hollywood means the rules, regulations, guilds and aassociations that make up and govern the american film indstry which is called hollywood.
as such therefore, if a film or a production house is a member of such guilds and is made under the auspices of such guilds, rules and regulations, is it then not a hollywood film?
No, that is not what Hollywood means in this context. You are stretching it too much just to back your loose argument… Why don’t you go for Hollywood to mean “a district of Los Angeles long associated with the American film industry”?
Hmm. Wow…I hav been educated a lot by sekua,kr n x…nothn more to say.
INTERESTING……………………..
no chris, not all movies made in america are under american laws. have you heard the term underground movies? they are not entitled to any law.
I have said it already and as it is, i am late for work. traffic is bad. I have said that a movie that is under the auspices of Hollywood is a Hollywood film. have I not said that? dictionary defines english words, you cannot define nuclear atomic energy via a dictionary, you can only research the meaning. research. if you want, I can help you saying you should do a google search and call the los angeles film office. I am sure a customer service agent will be glad to explain to you what can be called a hollywood film.
Every movie shot in America is by one way or the other subject the the laws of America. Forget about underground movie, if you register a company in America to shoot a movie, it is under America laws. I do not want to go into law arguments with you because your deductions are really disgusting here…
You will soon say, not everyone born in America is subject to America law even.
oh please. you don’t even live in america to know any better. you seem to be running away from the bottom line definitions ai have given in every post on this website. let me try one last time.
a movie, that is made under the auspices of the rules, regulations, guilds and associations of Hollywood is a hollywood movie. and by hollywood, I don’t mean the surface value meaning of the american film industry, i mean Hollywood as in the guilds, associations, laws and regulations of the people who broke out to go hide from the catholic church in the border town of los angeles, in the city of hollywood and formed what we now refer to as classsic Hollywood.
that you have registered your company to shoot movies in american and file taxes on your revenue does not mean Hollywood Industry patakes in your film. i have already told you what separates a hollywood film from any any other american film.
i can run a business in Ghana, obey ghana laws and not be part of the TUC. if you are not registered in hollywood, you are not hollywood.
@Chris I really don’t no why your still arguing with this thing I have been following the whole discussion and its seems like next minute he is late for work than there is traffic than he divides Hollywood into sections And now he is giving you the definition of Hollywood after googling the information I guess dude has no clue what he is talking about at all but I guess I will leave him to disgrace himself all the way
Miyagi say that again. am observing. sekua bonsu A.K.A paul amant3m, )sene 3dikanfo)…….hahahahahaha
LOL. You are just too much. Good one
and Chris, if you are looking for a dictionary definition of a Hollywood film, it is defined as cinema of the united states. which I will believe means all movies made int he united states!!! including the local ones van vicker comes to star in. here are your various dictionary definitions
Definitions of Hollywood film on the Web:
The cinema of the United States has had a profound effect on cinema across the world since the early 20th century. Its history is sometimes separated into four main periods: the silent film era, classical Hollywood cinema, New Hollywood, and the contemporary period (after 1980). …
some other say it the american film industry based in te city of hollywood.
i think I have given you enough material.
i am so confused by you this time. so i was right when I said you are talking films shot in the district of los angeles called hollywood? wow, 80% of hollywood movies are not hollywood movies then. then The blind side is a tenesse movie because it was shot in tennesse. then I am legend is a new york movie because it was shot in new york.
shit. and you own a website? chris. you are embrassing ghana right now. you know people come to this site right? and the owner is this narrow minded?
honest to God, I want us to come to a conclusion here. Chris, in one sentence state your case, and let me state mine so we can really find an understanding to this. I have read your posts and I am so darn confused as to what you are getting at. is your idea of hollywood the city or the industry?
if it is the industry, are you talking about hollywood as in the american film industry whicj means all american films made by registered companies or are you talking hollywood as is traditional/classic hollywood.
i think if you construct your website better where threads follow a chat pattern, this would have been easier.
honest to God, I want us to come to a conclusion here. Chris, in one sentence state your case, and let me state mine so we can really find an understanding to this. I have read your posts and I am so darn confused as to what you are getting at. is your idea of hollywood the city or the industry?
if it is the industry, are you talking about hollywood as in the american film industry whicj means all american films made by registered companies or are you talking hollywood as is traditional/classic hollywood.
i think if you construct your website better where threads follow a chat pattern, this would have been easier.
Get a life lady!!!
oh! you’re ending the game? i was about to call the winner. you see, you give up now, Chris automatically wins ooo.
@B.B lol behave yourself, dude couldn’t take the heat anymore or he run out of his google information lol
a debate is better enjoyed when its with people of like minds. when you are debating with people do not get the basics, it becomes an energy sapping venture.
No he cannot run out of google remember it is completely credible. LOL
I think there is a possibility that Leila Djansi’s film production company is a member of the PRODUCERS GUILD OF AMERICA, perhaps this is why her new pending film is dubbed a ‘Hollywood’ film.
The history of Hollywood includes production houses based in Los Angeles, Studio City, Culver City, Beverly Hills and Santa Monica(Hollywood is simply a suburb of Los Angeles that took on the moniker of the whole American film industry because some rich family provided land for films to be made).
Now, early production houses of Hollywood were and still are 20th Centry Fox, Miramax, Warner Brothers, Viacom, Paramount, Colombia and countless others that have merged or collapsed throughout the years.
Now, films made outside of the state of California were the American film industry is based were and still are a rarity, however because there is a market for films made in places apart from the Hollywood establishement, these companies support little known production houses similar to Turning Point Pictures……for instance Mel Gibson produced movies that have not made in Hollywood but in places like Mexico(Apocolyptico), Europe(Braveheart, Passion of The Christ) are still considered Hollywood because in order for him t reach his demographic he needs the help of the big studios like Miramax and co.
Great Point Kin,
But anyone can become a member of the PGA if they qualify. You ca even be recommended by someone who is a PGA. I think what you mean is someone or a production company which is registered in Hollwyood as a production company. Just like Chris is saying, it has to me made in Hollywood, by which I believe he means, the production company must be registered in Hollywood to be able to use that term loosely. But to be recognized as a hollywood movie by hollywood, I mean the glamor and recognition there are a little more things that need to be added to the soup. You must be unionized. which is what I think you mean.
goodbye every body. go and find some work to do. this is indeed trivial.
christ! 62 comments because I wrote and article and said Ties That Bind is a Hollywood film? But, correct me if I am wrong, please. is it not? Correct me if I am wrong, but the last I heard of this project, it is being produced jointly by Turning Point Pictures and Taction Media which is a Hollywood studio. That is why I said a Hollywood film. I also know that part of the film is being shot in Accra and part in Los Angeles.
This is amazing. I like how my articles stem drama. I do not consider any Leila Djansi film a Ghanaian film. They are are too well done, and all the movies to her credit are either pure industry films or her own films that are distributed in the industry.
I appreciate Sekuas thought although they could have come without condescending remarks, We all went to film school. if you are here to educate readers, don’t be aggressive about it.
Febiri, tell your reader kathy that I wrote the article. it is not stupid. I have reliable information and I choose not to associate certian movies with Ghana because they are not financed through Ghana, neither are they even distributed through Ghana. The place that puts up the money for a film owns the film. That is criteria for most film festivals when they want to determine where the film originates. they ask the financing. If Hollywood Fiancnes your film, then they own it. I guess that brings us back to Chris question of what is Hollywood. Here, I will agree with Sekua. he/she is right. You must be a member of Hollywood to be called Hollywood. Not all films made in America are Hollywood films. And what is hollywood? it is the group of industries (mainly based out of Los Angeles which is considered Hollywood by the film industry) new York is mainly for Television and stage, their associations are different. They may or may not be called Hollywood. If Sanaa Lathan does a stage play, its not Hollywood, its broadway. If she does a movie from a Hollywood company, then it is Hollywood. Sekua saying Hollywood is made of guilds is right although the word should be regulatory Unions.
Most of the major studios are members of these unions. I do not mean individuals but the companies are either members of the unions by association or by adherence.
kr is also right in saying no one says I am in a Hollywood movie. That won’t be said by a top shot in Hollywood. But in our local industry, we strive on image. Thus, it is easier to digest for us when you say a Hollywood movie. it places the image of the picture in an appropriate corner. You must be able to prove it though, if you claim such.
Yes, to claim Hollywood, your company or film must be registered in the city of Hollywood. Sekua, The Blind Side is a Hollywood film, the production company is based out of Hollywood and is registered there. Tennesse is just a location. Most production offices even some out of the country all have satellite offices in the city of Hollywood to be able to claim that status if they so desire. Like the south African company Distant Horizon. It has an office on sunset blvd and they are registered to the local unions in Hollywood.
all other films are from their country of origin. sekua, the movie my name is khan you speak of is a Bollywood/hollywood film. why? the movie is owned by Dharma Productions which is in India, but it was financed by Fox searchlight.
if a producer in Hollywood and a producer in Nollywood come together to make a film and jointly own the film, the film becomes a nollywood/holllywood film. or better still, we call it the international film.
Hollywood also represents the glamor and idea of the film industry, thus, many use it interchangeably to talk about movies made on large scales and movies that have attained recognition.
Leila’s company I know is based out of Beverly Hills (Hollywood), I also know that she pays allegiance to the unions, i remember in a conversation she complained about some fines she had to pay for not doing something right. I am not wrong there in calling her film a Hollywood film if we are to agree that all opinions rendered on this thread are valid.
I hope this puts an end to all the fight. Please feel free to ask me any questions and I will do my best to answer accordingly and without malice. I am trying hard to become the nice Joy.
and sekua, before you bite me,
When I say Hollywood, I mean Los Angeles, not the city.
oh, chris, how did your websit embarass me like this? I am typing Joy D to sekua bonsu and it takes only sekua bonsu.
Pleae, that post above is by Joy Dela Ocloo, the writer of the article that started this whole mess and not the commentor Sekua.
I am reposting my comment addressed to Chris and Sekua and Kr.
christ! 62 comments because I wrote and article and said Ties That Bind is a Hollywood film? But, correct me if I am wrong, please. is it not? Correct me if I am wrong, but the last I heard of this project, it is being produced jointly by Turning Point Pictures and Taction Media which is a Hollywood studio. That is why I said a Hollywood film. I also know that part of the film is being shot in Accra and part in Los Angeles.
This is amazing. I like how my articles stem drama. I do not consider any Leila Djansi film a Ghanaian film. They are are too well done, and all the movies to her credit are either pure industry films or her own films that are distributed in the industry.
I appreciate Sekuas thought although they could have come without condescending remarks, We all went to film school. if you are here to educate readers, don’t be aggressive about it.
Febiri, tell your reader kathy that I wrote the article. it is not stupid. I have reliable information and I choose not to associate certian movies with Ghana because they are not financed through Ghana, neither are they even distributed through Ghana. The place that puts up the money for a film owns the film. That is criteria for most film festivals when they want to determine where the film originates. they ask the financing. If Hollywood Fiancnes your film, then they own it. I guess that brings us back to Chris question of what is Hollywood. Here, I will agree with Sekua. he/she is right. You must be a member of Hollywood to be called Hollywood. Not all films made in America are Hollywood films. And what is hollywood? it is the group of industries (mainly based out of Los Angeles which is considered Hollywood by the film industry) new York is mainly for Television and stage, their associations are different. They may or may not be called Hollywood. If Sanaa Lathan does a stage play, its not Hollywood, its broadway. If she does a movie from a Hollywood company, then it is Hollywood. Sekua saying Hollywood is made of guilds is right although the word should be regulatory Unions.
Most of the major studios are members of these unions. I do not mean individuals but the companies are either members of the unions by association or by adherence.
kr is also right in saying no one says I am in a Hollywood movie. That won’t be said by a top shot in Hollywood. But in our local industry, we strive on image. Thus, it is easier to digest for us when you say a Hollywood movie. it places the image of the picture in an appropriate corner. You must be able to prove it though, if you claim such.
Yes, to claim Hollywood, your company or film must be registered in the city of Hollywood. Sekua, The Blind Side is a Hollywood film, the production company is based out of Hollywood and is registered there. Tennesse is just a location. Most production offices even some out of the country all have satellite offices in the city of Hollywood to be able to claim that status if they so desire. Like the south African company Distant Horizon. It has an office on sunset blvd and they are registered to the local unions in Hollywood.
all other films are from their country of origin. sekua, the movie my name is khan you speak of is a Bollywood/hollywood film. why? the movie is owned by Dharma Productions which is in India, but it was financed by Fox searchlight.
if a producer in Hollywood and a producer in Nollywood come together to make a film and jointly own the film, the film becomes a nollywood/holllywood film. or better still, we call it the international film.
Hollywood also represents the glamor and idea of the film industry, thus, many use it interchangeably to talk about movies made on large scales and movies that have attained recognition.
Leila’s company I know is based out of Beverly Hills (Hollywood), I also know that she pays allegiance to the unions, i remember in a conversation she complained about some fines she had to pay for not doing something right. I am not wrong there in calling her film a Hollywood film if we are to agree that all opinions rendered on this thread are valid.
I hope this puts an end to all the fight. Please feel free to ask me any questions and I will do my best to answer accordingly and without malice. I am trying hard to become the nice Joy.
This is simple. if you claim leila’s movies are hollywood movies the n why does she submit them ffor ghana movie awards under categories meant to reward only ghanaian movies ?
What the hell are you saying? how will u explain dis? why will a hollywood movie be entered into a ghanaian movie award? u and your leila must be crazy, smooking some weed or on some lsd to come up with this crap!
Ghana Movie awards said they invited the movie. and we are the ones naming her films hollywood films. I can provide articles here on GC where Chris interviewed leila who said she is a filmmaker and does not want to be labelled. yes or no? Even in the BBC interview on this site, she calls her films international films. I am the one who has tagged the film hollywood and I believe I have explained why i did that.
angela 27 aka bonsu,you are always like this and you keep changing name everywhere you go,,give it up girl you’ve been cut””i am so lolllllll,
It is funny how the hot air merchants parade their ignorance grandiloquently, without even having a clue. I actually took the time to write to Hollywood, and this was the response i got from them.
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Hello Joseph,
Thank you for contacting Universal Studios Hollywood. You have reached Guest Relations for the theme park.
While I can’t speak for all of us here at the park, I believe a “Hollywood” movie would be one that provides a more polished and heightened view of reality where the fantastical is the norm. This can be created through the use of special effects, intense melodrama, outlandish comedy or any other technique or style that makes a scenario appear larger-than-life. In my opinion, “Hollywood” films add an extra oomph much the same way that Broadway adds a touch of additional spectacle.
I hope that helps.
Sincerely,
Michael
Guest Relations Coordinator
Universal Studios Hollywood
http://www.universalstudioshollywood.com
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It is glaringly obvious that the connotation derived from “Hollywood” transcends place, regulatory body and all the mish-mash some of you are harping on here. Hollywood has morphed over the years, like recursive acronyms into a benchmark that movie makers aspire to.
All the schnooks here yapping nonsense should rub their balls, grab a beer and shout halleluyah to a billy goat.
that was great! would you care to ask him if he is referring to style or origin. because i believe what he has responded to you is style of Hollywood cinema. british and Italian cinema are also other styles. I would be interested in his response. otherwise even Frank Rajah can say his movies are Hollywood.
Errrrrrm Joy aka Sekua aka Leila, you just got busted ok? You’re two in one person. Joy is here posing as Sekua and when she was posting her comment she forget to change the name. The site didn’t make that mistake. You got BUSTED..Unless Chris can tell me its something that happenes.
LOL. I thought as much! Why cant she just shut up and keep all those long comments to herself. They are even boring to read.
Mimi, are you not the same person who wrote an article bashing me and Leila about Genny being on Oprah? Why do you hate Leila so much? You travel under multiple identities and make insulting remarks about her. yet she is only going higher.
for your information, I hit reply on sekua post and I am not sure what happened. Chris can post the ip address here if he so wishes. I have nothing to hide. I always write my name as Joy Dela Ocloo.
You can think what you wish. If I were Sekua, I guarantee you my thoughts would have been clearly expressed and I will not be insulting Chris because I have respect for him. I might as well be Kin then or even Kr. If you think Leila Djansi has time to be commenting on websites then you really hate her with passion.
You said she should go and direct Hollywood stars right? well she has. Please be careful to write another article and send to to Nigeria films. we will publish it for you.
Mimi, sweety let me make myself clear. I too think this letter written to Chris is water under the bridge.. if Leila Djansi claims to have a Hollywood caliber film in the works and deems her next film a Hollywood production SO WHAT.
Americans like too much to think they are top dog, and our pushing Leila probably sparked some jealousy on her part(cause after all Americans give the most important Oscar worthy film roles to musicians and traditional actors get no roles as compared to Ghana)…….
This comment doesn’t even make any sense.
Mimi and co. you are clowns. animals from the zoo. This is why I do not comment on this website which parades animals always fighting and insulting Nadia, jackie, John and co who are doing well and lifting up the name of the industry. That is wall you people know. insulting people and calling each other names. bush animals.
I am done. you can continue fighting without me.
hahahahahahaha. did you say you are done? hmmmm what a relieve! have been tired of your long comments long ago. bye mama
Hahaha Lol B.B. im saying! Ohh wee! Thank God sekua. Im done going through all those long ass comments from you! BYE and the next time dont compare Great Ghana to Nigeria.
@ Joy, thanks for stepping forward and speaking up on the article. Your explanation of what you meant in your article sets light on your definition. What Joseph wrote, and claims he got from Universal Studios, shows that there are different interpretation of what “Hollywood” film means. I think the writer of the reader’s mail, was looking at what is the intrepretation of “Hollywood” movies are in the context that you wrote of in your article. That was my point. The phase is arbitary and can be used in various context. However, it seems that some people are of the opinion that “Hollywood” movie(s) is a legitimate “title” with one specific meaning. From the various posts it has become evident that it is a matter of opinion based on contextual perspectives. Thus it’s all relative.
Let us not fail to keep in mind, that although the site is primarily dedicated to Ghanaian celebrities, it draws readers from all over the world. We therefore cannot assume that what is understood by one culture is understood in the same contaxt by all cultures. As Chris pointed out, the writer of the reader’s mail is an African American, so that would explain the letter and position taken on the use of “Hollywood” movie. It is really not used in American culture, technically. I think that’s all there is to it. Thanks for stepping in with your take on the original article. Peace
you are right. The article or reader mail was not necessary. We africans must push our own! the akata people don’t think Africans have any clout so they visit our website and try to bring down our own. I have made it clear why I called the film a hollywood film. if akata are not recognized in hollywood an an african is, that is just our joy. Gavin Hood and Rick Famuywa are example so of africans making studio films. Now our own Leila Djansi is getting there.
since we are talking about hollywood movies,here is jeta amata’s upcoming movie BLACK GOLD which has hollywood stars in it and it was also shot in hollywood and nigeria.http://www.facebookvideodown.com/black-gold-struggle-for-the-niger-delta-official-trailer-hd–51719.html
well said sekou